Form990-PF

Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service

Return of Private Foundation
or Section 4947(a)(1) Trust Treated as Private Foundation
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OMB No. 1545-0047
2024
Open to Public Inspection
For calendar year 2024, or tax year beginning 01-01-2024 , and ending 12-31-2024
Name of foundation
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
 
Number and street (or P.O. box number if mail is not delivered to street address)3800 N LAKE SHORE DRIVE 15B
  Room/suite
City or town, state or province, country, and ZIP or foreign postal code
CHICAGO, IL606133301
A Employer identification number

26-3033542
B Telephone number (see instructions)

(312) 494-4414
C right arrow
G Check all that apply:

D 1. Foreign organizations, check here............. right arrow
2. Foreign organizations meeting the 85%
test, check here and attach computation ... right arrow
E right arrow
H Check type of organization:
F right arrow
I Fair market value of all assets at end
of year (from Part II, col. (c),
line 16)right arrow$897,537J Accounting method:
 
(Part I, column (d) must be on cash basis.)
Part I Analysis of Revenue and Expenses (The total of amounts in columns (b), (c), and (d) may not necessarily equal the amounts in column (a) (see instructions).) (a) Revenue and
expenses per
books 		(b) Net investment
income 		(c) Adjusted net
income 		(d) Disbursements
for charitable
purposes
(cash basis only)
Revenue 1 Contributions, gifts, grants, etc., received (attach schedule) 5,319
2 Check right arrow.............
3 Interest on savings and temporary cash investments      
4 Dividends and interest from securities... 59,998 59,998  
5a Gross rents............      
b Net rental income or (loss)  
6a Net gain or (loss) from sale of assets not on line 10 481
b Gross sales price for all assets on line 6a 89,692
7 Capital gain net income (from Part IV, line 2)... 481
8 Net short-term capital gain.........  
9 Income modifications...........  
10a Gross sales less returns and allowances  
b Less: Cost of goods sold....  
c Gross profit or (loss) (attach schedule).....    
11 Other income (attach schedule).......      
12 Total. Add lines 1 through 11........ 65,798 60,479  
Operating and Administrative Expenses 13 Compensation of officers, directors, trustees, etc. 0 0   0
14 Other employee salaries and wages......        
15 Pension plans, employee benefits.......        
16a Legal fees (attach schedule).........        
b Accounting fees (attach schedule)....... Click to see attachment
List of Attached Documents:
// Content
5,293 0   5,293
c Other professional fees (attach schedule)....        
17 Interest...............        
18 Taxes (attach schedule) (see instructions)... Click to see attachment
List of Attached Documents:
// Content
1,416 0   26
19 Depreciation (attach schedule) and depletion...      
20 Occupancy..............        
21 Travel, conferences, and meetings.......        
22 Printing and publications..........        
23 Other expenses (attach schedule).......        
24 Total operating and administrative expenses.
Add lines 13 through 23.......... 6,709 0   5,319
25 Contributions, gifts, grants paid....... 64,250 64,250
26 Total expenses and disbursements. Add lines 24 and 25 70,959 0   69,569
27 Subtract line 26 from line 12:
a Excess of revenue over expenses and disbursements -5,161
b Net investment income (if negative, enter -0-) 60,479
c Adjusted net income (if negative, enter -0-)...  
For Paperwork Reduction Act Notice, see instructions.
Cat. No. 11289X Form 990-PF (2024)
Form 990-PF (2024)
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Part II Balance Sheets Attached schedules and amounts in the description column
should be for end-of-year amounts only. (See instructions.) 		Beginning of year End of year
(a) Book Value (b) Book Value (c) Fair Market Value
Assets 1 Cash—non-interest-bearing.............      
2 Savings and temporary cash investments......... -13,470 35,141 35,141
3 Accounts receivable right arrow  
Less: allowance for doubtful accounts right arrow        
4 Pledges receivable right arrow  
Less: allowance for doubtful accounts right arrow        
5 Grants receivable.................      
6 Receivables due from officers, directors, trustees, and other
disqualified persons (attach schedule) (see instructions).....      
7 Other notes and loans receivable (attach schedule) right arrow  
Less: allowance for doubtful accounts right arrow        
8 Inventories for sale or use..............      
9 Prepaid expenses and deferred charges..........      
10a Investments—U.S. and state government obligations (attach schedule)      
b Investments—corporate stock (attach schedule)....... 882,258 Click to see attachment
List of Attached Documents:
// Content
828,486 		862,396
c Investments—corporate bonds (attach schedule).......      
11 Investments—land, buildings, and equipment: basis right arrow  
Less: accumulated depreciation (attach schedule) right arrow        
12 Investments—mortgage loans.............      
13 Investments—other (attach schedule)..........      
14 Land, buildings, and equipment: basis right arrow  
Less: accumulated depreciation (attach schedule) right arrow        
15 Other assets (describe right arrow)      
16 Total assets (to be completed by all filers—see the
instructions. Also, see page 1, item I) 868,788 863,627 897,537
Liabilities 17 Accounts payable and accrued expenses..........    
18 Grants payable.................    
19 Deferred revenue.................    
20 Loans from officers, directors, trustees, and other disqualified persons    
21 Mortgages and other notes payable (attach schedule)......    
22 Other liabilities (describe right arrow)    
23 Total liabilities (add lines 17 through 22)......... 0 0
Net Assets or Fund Balances Foundations that follow FASB ASC 958, check here right arrow
and complete lines 24, 25, 29 and 30.
24 Net assets without donor restrictions...........    
25 Net assets with donor restrictions............    
Foundations that do not follow FASB ASC 958, check here right arrow
and complete lines 26 through 30.
26 Capital stock, trust principal, or current funds........ 868,788 863,627
27 Paid-in or capital surplus, or land, bldg., and equipment fund 0 0
28 Retained earnings, accumulated income, endowment, or other funds 0 0
29 Total net assets or fund balances (see instructions)..... 868,788 863,627
30 Total liabilities and net assets/fund balances (see instructions). 868,788 863,627
Part III
Analysis of Changes in Net Assets or Fund Balances
1
Total net assets or fund balances at beginning of year—Part II, column (a), line 29 (must agree with end-of-year figure reported on prior year’s return) ...............
1
868,788
2
Enter amount from Part I, line 27a .....................
2
-5,161
3
Other increases not included in line 2 (itemize) right arrow
3
0
4
Add lines 1, 2, and 3 ..........................
4
863,627
5
Decreases not included in line 2 (itemize) right arrow
5
0
6
Total net assets or fund balances at end of year (line 4 minus line 5)—Part II, column (b), line 29 .
6
863,627
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Part IV
Capital Gains and Losses for Tax on Investment Income
(a) List and describe the kind(s) of property sold (e.g., real estate,
2-story brick warehouse; or common stock, 200 shs. MLC Co.)		 (b)
How acquired
P—Purchase
D—Donation 		(c)
Date acquired
(mo., day, yr.) 		(d)
Date sold
(mo., day, yr.)
1 a APARTMENT INCOME REIT CO   2024-04-15 2024-04-17
b FARMLAND PARTNERS INC REIT   2024-12-20 2024-12-23
c ISHARES FLOATING RATE BOND ETF   2024-01-08 2024-01-10
d SOW GOOD INC CLASS EQUITY   2024-08-16 2024-12-06
e SOW GOOD INC CLASS EQUITY   2024-08-16 2024-12-09
SOW GOOD INC CLASS EQUITY   2024-08-16 2024-12-10
VIA RENEWA 12.1682% PFDPFD SER A   2022-07-19 2024-06-12
FTAI AVIAT 12.0943% PFDPFD SER A   2022-07-19 2024-10-30
GREAT ELM CAPIT 6.75%PFD**CALLED** @PAR EFF: 10/12/2024   2022-07-19 2024-10-15
PYXIS TANKERS 7.75% PFDCONV SER A   2022-07-19 2024-10-22
SACHEM CAPITAL 7.125%PFD DUE 06/30/24SUBJ TO XTRO REDEMPTION   2022-07-19 2024-07-01
TORTOISE POWER & ENERGY INFRA   2022-07-19 2024-12-26
(e)
Gross sales price 		(f)
Depreciation allowed
(or allowable) 		(g)
Cost or other basis
plus expense of sale 		(h)
Gain or (loss)
(e) plus (f) minus (g)
a 6,721   7,373 -652
b 6,114   7,010 -896
c 20,994   20,961 33
d 91   420 -329
e 80   378 -298
717   3,400 -2,683
9,961   10,094 -133
11,250   9,890 1,360
10,000   9,720 280
13,750   9,984 3,766
10,000   9,977 23
14   4 10
Complete only for assets showing gain in column (h) and owned by the foundation on 12/31/69 (l)
Gains (Col. (h) gain minus
col. (k), but not less than -0-) or
Losses (from col.(h))
(i)
F.M.V. as of 12/31/69 		(j)
Adjusted basis
as of 12/31/69 		(k)
Excess of col. (i)
over col. (j), if any
a       -652
b       -896
c       33
d       -329
e       -298
      -2,683
      -133
      1,360
      280
      3,766
      23
      10
2 Capital gain net income or (net capital loss) Bracket If gain, also enter in Part I, line 7
If (loss), enter -0- in Part I, line 7		 Bracket 2 481
3 Net short-term capital gain or (loss) as defined in sections 1222(5) and (6):
If gain, also enter in Part I, line 8, column (c) (see instructions). If (loss), enter -0-
in Part I, line 8 ................... 		Bracket 3  
Part V
Excise Tax Based on Investment Income (Section 4940(a), 4940(b), 4940(e), or 4948—see instructions)
1a Exempt operating foundations described in section 4940(d)(2), check here right arrow and enter “N/A" on line 1. Bracket for line 1a
Date of ruling or determination letter:   (attach copy of letter if necessary–see instructions) 1 841
b All other domestic foundations enter 1.39% (0.0139) of line 27b. Exempt foreign organizations enter 4% (0.04) of Part I, line 12, col. (b)
2 Tax under section 511 (domestic section 4947(a)(1) trusts and taxable foundations only. Others enter -0-) 2 0
3 Add lines 1 and 2........................... 3 841
4 Subtitle A (income) tax (domestic section 4947(a)(1) trusts and taxable foundations only. Others enter -0-) 4 0
5 Tax based on investment income. Subtract line 4 from line 3. If zero or less, enter -0- ..... 5 841
6 Credits/Payments:
a 2024 estimated tax payments and 2023 overpayment credited to 2024 6a 850
b Exempt foreign organizations—tax withheld at source...... 6b 0
c Tax paid with application for extension of time to file (Form 8868)... 6c 0
d Backup withholding erroneously withheld .......... 6d 0
7 Total credits and payments. Add lines 6a through 6d.............. 7 850
8 Enter any penalty for underpayment of estimated tax. Check here if Form 2220 is attached. Click to see attachment
List of Attached Documents:
// Content
8 0
9 Tax due. If the total of lines 5 and 8 is more than line 7, enter amount owed.......right arrow 9  
10 Overpayment. If line 7 is more than the total of lines 5 and 8, enter the amount overpaid...right arrow 10 9
11 Enter the amount of line 10 to be: Credited to 2025 estimated taxright arrow9 Refundedright arrow 11 0
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Part VI-A
Statements Regarding Activities
1a
During the tax year, did the foundation attempt to influence any national, state, or local legislation or did
Yes
No
it participate or intervene in any political campaign? ....................
1a
 
No
b
Did it spend more than $100 during the year (either directly or indirectly) for political purposes? See the instructions
for the definition.................................
1b
 
No
If the answer is "Yes" to 1a or 1b, attach a detailed description of the activities and copies of any materials
published or distributed by the foundation in connection with the activities.
c
Did the foundation file Form 1120-POL for this year?.....................
1c
 
No
d
Enter the amount (if any) of tax on political expenditures (section 4955) imposed during the year:
(1) On the foundation. right arrow$ 0(2) On foundation managers.right arrow$ 0
e
Enter the reimbursement (if any) paid by the foundation during the year for political expenditure tax imposed
on foundation managers.right arrow$ 0
2
Has the foundation engaged in any activities that have not previously been reported to the IRS?.......
2
 
No
If "Yes," attach a detailed description of the activities.
3
Has the foundation made any changes, not previously reported to the IRS, in its governing instrument, articles
of incorporation, or bylaws, or other similar instruments? If "Yes," attach a conformed copy of the changes....
3
 
No
4a
Did the foundation have unrelated business gross income of $1,000 or more during the year?.........
4a
 
No
b
If "Yes," has it filed a tax return on Form 990-T for this year?...................
4b
 
 
5
Was there a liquidation, termination, dissolution, or substantial contraction during the year?.........
5
 
No
If "Yes," attach the statement required by General Instruction T.
6
Are the requirements of section 508(e) (relating to sections 4941 through 4945) satisfied either:
round bullet By language in the governing instrument, or
round bullet By state legislation that effectively amends the governing instrument so that no mandatory directions
that conflict with the state law remain in the governing instrument? ................
6
Yes
 
7
Did the foundation have at least $5,000 in assets at any time during the year? If "Yes," complete Part II, col. (c),
and Part XIV..................................
7
Yes
 
8a
Enter the states to which the foundation reports or with which it is registered (see instructions)
right arrowIL
b
If the answer is "Yes" to line 7, has the foundation furnished a copy of Form 990-PF to the Attorney
General (or designate) of each state as required by General Instruction G? If "No," attach explanation .
8b
Yes
 
9
Is the foundation claiming status as a private operating foundation within the meaning of section 4942(j)(3)
or 4942(j)(5) for calendar year 2024 or the taxable year beginning in 2024? See the instructions for Part XIII.
If "Yes," complete Part XIII .............................
9
 
No
10
Did any persons become substantial contributors during the tax year? If "Yes," attach a schedule listing their names
and addresses. ...............................
10
 
No
11
At any time during the year, did the foundation, directly or indirectly, own a controlled entity within the
meaning of section 512(b)(13)? If "Yes," attach schedule. See instructions .............
11
 
No
12
Did the foundation make a distribution to a donor advised fund over which the foundation or a disqualified person had
advisory privileges? If "Yes," attach statement. See instructions.................
12
 
No
13
Did the foundation comply with the public inspection requirements for its annual returns and exemption application?
13
Yes
 
Website addressright arrowN/A
14
The books are in care ofright arrowSIDNEY N HERMAN Telephone no.right arrow (312) 494-4144

Located atright arrow3800 N LAKE SHORE DRIVE 13BCHICAGOIL ZIP+4right arrow606133301
15
Section 4947(a)(1) nonexempt charitable trusts filing Form 990-PF in lieu of Form 1041 —check here .........right arrow
and enter the amount of tax-exempt interest received or accrued during the year ........right arrow
15
 
16 At any time during calendar year 2024, did the foundation have an interest in or a signature or other authority over YesNo
a bank, securities, or other financial account in a foreign country? .................
16   No
See the instructions for exceptions and filing requirements for FinCEN Form 114. If "Yes", enter the name of the foreign
country right arrow
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Part VI-B
Statements Regarding Activities for Which Form 4720 May Be Required
File Form 4720 if any item is checked in the "Yes" column, unless an exception applies.
Yes
No
1a
During the year did the foundation (either directly or indirectly):
(1) Engage in the sale or exchange, or leasing of property with a disqualified person? ...........
1a(1)
 
No
(2) Borrow money from, lend money to, or otherwise extend credit to (or accept it from)
a disqualified person? ..............................
1a(2)
 
No
(3) Furnish goods, services, or facilities to (or accept them from) a disqualified person? ...........
1a(3)
 
No
(4) Pay compensation to, or pay or reimburse the expenses of, a disqualified person? ............
1a(4)
 
No
(5) Transfer any income or assets to a disqualified person (or make any of either available
for the benefit or use of a disqualified person)? ......................
1a(5)
 
No
(6) Agree to pay money or property to a government official? (Exception. Check "No"
if the foundation agreed to make a grant to or to employ the official for a period
after termination of government service, if terminating within 90 days.) ...............
1a(6)
 
No
b
If any answer is "Yes" to 1a(1)–(6), did any of the acts fail to qualify under the exceptions described in Regulations
section 53.4941(d)-3 or in a current notice regarding disaster assistance? See instructions ..........
1b
 
 
c
Organizations relying on a current notice regarding disaster assistance check here ........right arrow
d
Did the foundation engage in a prior year in any of the acts described in 1a, other than excepted acts,
that were not corrected before the first day of the tax year beginning in 2024? .............
1d
 
No
2
Taxes on failure to distribute income (section 4942) (does not apply for years the foundation was a private
operating foundation defined in section 4942(j)(3) or 4942(j)(5)):
a
At the end of tax year 2024, did the foundation have any undistributed income (Part XII, lines 6d
and 6e) for tax year(s) beginning before 2024?....................
2a
 
No
If "Yes," list the years right arrow20, 20, 20, 20
b
Are there any years listed in 2a for which the foundation is not applying the provisions of section 4942(a)(2)
(relating to incorrect valuation of assets) to the year’s undistributed income? (If applying section 4942(a)(2)
to all years listed, answer "No" and attach statement—see instructions.) ..............
2b
 
 
c
If the provisions of section 4942(a)(2) are being applied to any of the years listed in 2a, list the years here.
right arrow20, 20, 20, 20
3a
Did the foundation hold more than a 2% direct or indirect interest in any business enterprise at
any time during the year? ..............................
3a
 
No
b
If "Yes," did it have excess business holdings in 2024 as a result of (1) any purchase by the foundation
or disqualified persons after May 26, 1969; (2) the lapse of the 5-year period (or longer period approved
by the Commissioner under section 4943(c)(7)) to dispose of holdings acquired by gift or bequest; or (3)
the lapse of the 10-, 15-, or 20-year first phase holding period? (Use Schedule C, Form 4720, to determine
if the foundation had excess business holdings in 2024.) .....................
3b
 
 
4a
Did the foundation invest during the year any amount in a manner that would jeopardize its charitable purposes?
4a
 
No
b
Did the foundation make any investment in a prior year (but after December 31, 1969) that could jeopardize its
charitable purpose that had not been removed from jeopardy before the first day of the tax year beginning in 2024? ..
4b
 
No
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Part VI-B
Statements Regarding Activities for Which Form 4720 May Be Required (continued)
5a
During the year did the foundation pay or incur any amount to:
Yes
No
(1) Carry on propaganda, or otherwise attempt to influence legislation (section 4945(e))? ..........
5a(1)
 
No
(2) Influence the outcome of any specific public election (see section 4955); or to carry
on, directly or indirectly, any voter registration drive? ....................
5a(2)
 
No
(3) Provide a grant to an individual for travel, study, or other similar purposes? .............
5a(3)
 
No
(4) Provide a grant to an organization other than a charitable, etc., organization described
in section 4945(d)(4)(A)? See instructions ........................
5a(4)
 
No
(5) Provide for any purpose other than religious, charitable, scientific, literary, or
educational purposes, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals? .............
5a(5)
 
No
b
If any answer is "Yes" to 5a(1)–(5), did any of the transactions fail to qualify under the exceptions described in
Regulations section 53.4945 or in a current notice regarding disaster assistance? See instructions ........
5b
 
 
c
Organizations relying on a current notice regarding disaster assistance check .........right arrow
d
If the answer is "Yes" to question 5a(4), does the foundation claim exemption from the
tax because it maintained expenditure responsibility for the grant? .................
5d
 
 
If "Yes," attach the statement required by Regulations section 53.4945–5(d).
6a
Did the foundation, during the year, receive any funds, directly or indirectly, to pay premiums on
a personal benefit contract? .............................
6a
 
No
b
Did the foundation, during the year, pay premiums, directly or indirectly, on a personal benefit contract? ....
6b
 
No
If "Yes" to 6b, file Form 8870.
7a
At any time during the tax year, was the foundation a party to a prohibited tax shelter transaction?
7a
 
No
b
If "Yes", did the foundation receive any proceeds or have any net income attributable to the transaction? .....
7b
 
 
8
Is the foundation subject to the section 4960 tax on payment(s) of more than $1,000,000 in remuneration or
excess parachute payment during the year? .........................
8
 
No
Part VII
Information About Officers, Directors, Trustees, Foundation Managers, Highly Paid Employees,
and Contractors
1 List all officers, directors, trustees, foundation managers and their compensation. See instructions
(a) Name and address (b) Title, and average
hours per week
devoted to position 		(c) Compensation
 (If not paid, enter
-0-) 		(d) Contributions to employee benefit plans and deferred compensation (e) Expense account,
other allowances
SIDNEY N HERMAN PRESIDENT & DIRECTOR
1.00 		0 0 0
3800 N LAKE SHORE DRIVE 13B
CHICAGO,IL60613
MARGARET D HERMAN TREASURER, SECRETARY & DIR
1.00 		0 0 0
3800 N LAKE SHORE DRIVE 13B
CHICAGO,IL60613
ROCKNEY W HUDSON ASST SECRETARY & DIRECTOR
1.00 		0 0 0
20 N WACKER DRIVE 1520
CHICAGO,IL60606
2 Compensation of five highest-paid employees (other than those included on line 1—see instructions). If none, enter “NONE."
(a) Name and address of each employee paid more than $50,000 (b) Title, and average
hours per week
devoted to position 		(c) Compensation (d) Contributions to
employee benefit
plans and deferred
compensation 		(e) Expense account,
other allowances
NONE
Total number of other employees paid over $50,000...................right arrow 0
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Part VII
Information About Officers, Directors, Trustees, Foundation Managers, Highly Paid Employees,
and Contractors (continued)
3 Five highest-paid independent contractors for professional services (see instructions). If none, enter "NONE".
(a) Name and address of each person paid more than $50,000 (b) Type of service (c) Compensation
NONE
Total number of others receiving over $50,000 for professional services.............right arrow0
Part VIII-A
Summary of Direct Charitable Activities
List the foundation’s four largest direct charitable activities during the tax year. Include relevant statistical information such as the number of organizations and other beneficiaries served, conferences convened, research papers produced, etc. Expenses
1  
2  
3  
4  
Part VIII-B
Summary of Program-Related Investments (see instructions)
Describe the two largest program-related investments made by the foundation during the tax year on lines 1 and 2. Amount
1  
2  
All other program-related investments. See instructions.
3  
Total. Add lines 1 through 3.........................right arrow0
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Part IX
Minimum Investment Return (All domestic foundations must complete this part. Foreign foundations, see instructions.)
1
Fair market value of assets not used (or held for use) directly in carrying out charitable, etc.,
purposes:
a
Average monthly fair market value of securities...................
1a
901,067
b
Average of monthly cash balances.......................
1b
20,035
c
Fair market value of all other assets (see instructions)................
1c
0
d
Total (add lines 1a, b, and c).........................
1d
921,102
e
Reduction claimed for blockage or other factors reported on lines 1a and
1c (attach detailed explanation) .............
1e
0
2
Acquisition indebtedness applicable to line 1 assets..................
2
0
3
Subtract line 2 from line 1d.........................
3
921,102
4
Cash deemed held for charitable activities. Enter 1.5% (0.015) of line 3 (for greater amount, see
instructions) .............................
4
13,817
5
Net value of noncharitable-use assets. Subtract line 4 from line 3. ............
5
907,285
6
Minimum investment return. Enter 5% (0.05) of line 5................
6
45,364
Part X
Distributable Amount (see instructions) (Section 4942(j)(3) and (j)(5) private operating foundations and certain foreign organizations check here right arrow and do not complete this part.)
1
Minimum investment return from Part IX, line 6..................
1
45,364
2a
Tax on investment income for 2024 from Part V, line 5 .......
2a
841
b
Income tax for 2024. (This does not include the tax from Part V.) ...
2b
 
c
Add lines 2a and 2b............................
2c
841
3
Distributable amount before adjustments. Subtract line 2c from line 1............
3
44,523
4
Recoveries of amounts treated as qualifying distributions................
4
0
5
Add lines 3 and 4............................
5
44,523
6
Deduction from distributable amount (see instructions).................
6
0
7
Distributable amount as adjusted. Subtract line 6 from line 5. Enter here and on Part XII, line 1 ...
7
44,523
Part XI
Qualifying Distributions (see instructions)
1
Amounts paid (including administrative expenses) to accomplish charitable, etc., purposes:
a
Expenses, contributions, gifts, etc.—total from Part I, column (d), line 26 ..........
1a
69,569
b
Program-related investments—total from Part VIII-B..................
1b
0
2
Amounts paid to acquire assets used (or held for use) directly in carrying out charitable, etc.,
purposes...............................
2
 
3
Amounts set aside for specific charitable projects that satisfy the:
a
Suitability test (prior IRS approval required)....................
3a
 
b
Cash distribution test (attach the required schedule) .................
3b
 
4
Qualifying distributions. Add lines 1a through 3b. Enter here and on Part XII, line 4. .......
4
69,569
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Form 990-PF (2024)
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Part XII
Undistributed Income (see instructions)
(a)
Corpus 		(b)
Years prior to 2023 		(c)
2023 		(d)
2024
1 Distributable amount for 2024 from Part X, line 7 44,523
2 Undistributed income, if any, as of the end of 2024:
a Enter amount for 2023 only....... 0
b Total for prior years:20 , 20, 20 0
3 Excess distributions carryover, if any, to 2024:
a From 2019...... 214,689
b From 2020...... 95,112
c From 2021...... 90,557
d From 2022...... 57,056
e From 2023...... 97,776
f Total of lines 3a through e ........ 555,190
4Qualifying distributions for 2024 from Part
XI, line 4: right arrow$ 69,569
a Applied to 2023, but not more than line 2a 0
b Applied to undistributed income of prior years
(Election required—see instructions)..... 		0
c Treated as distributions out of corpus (Election
required—see instructions)........ 		0
d Applied to 2024 distributable amount..... 44,523
e Remaining amount distributed out of corpus 25,046
5 Excess distributions carryover applied to 2024. 0 0
(If an amount appears in column (d), the
same amount must be shown in column (a).)
6Enter the net total of each column as
indicated below:
a Corpus. Add lines 3f, 4c, and 4e. Subtract line 5 580,236
b Prior years’ undistributed income. Subtract
line 4b from line 2b .......... 		0
c Enter the amount of prior years’ undistributed
income for which a notice of deficiency has
been issued, or on which the section 4942(a)
tax has been previously assessed...... 		0
d Subtract line 6c from line 6b. Taxable amount
—see instructions ........... 		0
e Undistributed income for 2023. Subtract line
4a from line 2a. Taxable amount—see
instructions ............. 		0
f Undistributed income for 2024. Subtract
lines 4d and 5 from line 1. This amount must
be distributed in 2025 .......... 		0
7 Amounts treated as distributions out of
corpus to satisfy requirements imposed by
section 170(b)(1)(F) or 4942(g)(3) (Election may
be required - see instructions) ....... 		0
8 Excess distributions carryover from 2019 not
applied on line 5 or line 7 (see instructions) ... 		214,689
9 Excess distributions carryover to 2025.
Subtract lines 7 and 8 from line 6a ...... 		365,547
10 Analysis of line 9:
a Excess from 2020.... 95,112
b Excess from 2021.... 90,557
c Excess from 2022.... 57,056
d Excess from 2023.... 97,776
e Excess from 2024.... 25,046
Form 990-PF (2024)
Form 990-PF (2024)
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Part XIII
Private Operating Foundations (see instructions and Part VI-A, question 9)
1a If the foundation has received a ruling or determination letter that it is a private operating
foundation, and the ruling is effective for 2024, enter the date of the ruling ...... right arrow
 
b Check box to indicate whether the organization is a private operating foundation described in section or
2a Enter the lesser of the adjusted net
income from Part I or the minimum
investment return from Part IX for each
year listed .......... 		Tax year Prior 3 years (e) Total
(a) 2024 (b) 2023 (c) 2022 (d) 2021
         
b 85% (0.85) of line 2a .........          
c Qualifying distributions from Part XI,
line 4 for each year listed ..... 		         
d Amounts included in line 2c not used directly
for active conduct of exempt activities .......... 		         
e Qualifying distributions made directly
for active conduct of exempt activities.
Subtract line 2d from line 2c .... 		         
3 Complete 3a, b, or c for the
alternative test relied upon:
a “Assets" alternative test—enter:
(1) Value of all assets ......          
(2) Value of assets qualifying
under section 4942(j)(3)(B)(i)		          
b “Endowment" alternative test— enter 2/3
of minimum investment return shown in
Part IX, line 6 for each year listed .. 		         
c “Support" alternative test—enter:
(1) Total support other than gross
investment income (interest,
dividends, rents, payments
on securities loans (section
512(a)(5)), or royalties) .... 		         
(2) Support from general public
and 5 or more exempt
organizations as provided in
section 4942(j)(3)(B)(iii).... 		         
(3) Largest amount of support
from an exempt organization		          
(4) Gross investment income          
Part XIV
Supplementary Information (Complete this part only if the foundation had $5,000 or more in
assets at any time during the year—see instructions.)
1Information Regarding Foundation Managers:
aList any managers of the foundation who have contributed more than 2% of the total contributions received by the foundation
before the close of any tax year (but only if they have contributed more than $5,000). (See section 507(d)(2).)
SIDNEY N HERMAN
MARGARET D HERMAN
bList any managers of the foundation who own 10% or more of the stock of a corporation (or an equally large portion of the
ownership of a partnership or other entity) of which the foundation has a 10% or greater interest.
2Information Regarding Contribution, Grant, Gift, Loan, Scholarship, etc., Programs:
Check here right arrow if the foundation only makes contributions to preselected charitable organizations and does not accept
unsolicited requests for funds. If the foundation makes gifts, grants, etc. to individuals or organizations under
other conditions, complete items 2a, b, c, and d. See instructions
aThe name, address, and telephone number or email address of the person to whom applications should be addressed:
bThe form in which applications should be submitted and information and materials they should include:
cAny submission deadlines:
dAny restrictions or limitations on awards, such as by geographical areas, charitable fields, kinds of institutions, or other
factors:
Form 990-PF (2024)
Form 990-PF (2024)
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Part XIV
Supplementary Information (continued)
3 Grants and Contributions Paid During the Year or Approved for Future Payment
Recipient If recipient is an individual,
show any relationship to
any foundation manager
or substantial contributor
 Foundation
status of
recipient 		Purpose of grant or
contribution 		Amount
Name and address (home or business)
aPaid during the year

AMY KROUSE ROSENTHAL FOUNDATION

2906 CENTRAL ST
EVANSTON,IL60201 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

GREATER CHICAGO FOOD DEPOSITORY

4100 W ANN LURIE WAY PLACE
CHICAGO,IL60632 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 5,000

HABITAT FOR HUMANITY

322 W LAMAR ST
AMERICUS,GA317093543 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

JEWISH UNITED FUND

30 S WELLS ST ROOM 3134
CHICAGO,IL60606 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 10,000

MONTANA LAND RELIANCE

401 N CALIFORNIA ST
HELENA,MT59601 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 10,000

NOURISHING HOPE

3945 N SHERIDAN RD
CHICAGO,IL60613 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 10,000

PLANNED PARENTHOOD

PO BOX 97166
WASHINGTON,DC200907166 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

SWEET GRASS COMMUNITY FOUNDATION

116 W 2ND AVENUE
BIG TIMBER,MT59011 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 5,500

THE CHICAGO COMMUNITY FOUNDATION

33 S STATE STREET STE 750
CHICAGO,IL60603 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 2,500

FRIENDS OF DORNIX PARK

PO BOX 460
BIG TIMBER,MT59011 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 250

CARING BRIDGE

3600 AMERICAN BLVD STE 405
BLOOMINGTON,MN55431 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 500

GILDA'S CLUB CHICAGO

537 N WELLS ST
CHICAGO,IL60654 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

BILLINGS CLINIC FOUNDATION

PO BOX 31031
BILLINGS,MT591079945 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 5,000

NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY

28274 NETWORK PLACE
CHICAGO,IL606731282 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,500

SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO (STEVE WEINSTEIN)

116 S MICHIGAN AVENUE
CHICAGO,IL60603 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

OVARIAN CANCER ALLIANCE

45 ROCKEFELLER PLAZA 20THFLOOR
NEW YORK,NY10111 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 5,000

RED DOOR SHELTER

2410 W LUNT AVE
CHICAGO,IL60645 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 500

DUMB FRIENDS LEAGUE

2080 S QUEBEC ST
DENVER,CO802313298 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

AMERICAN RIVERS

PO BOX 96158
WASHINGTON,DC200777106 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

ILLINOIS HOLOCAUST MUSEUM

9603 WOODS DRIVE
SKOKIE,IL60077 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 1,000

MONTANA JEWISH PROJECT

PO BOX 491
HELENA,MT59624 		NONE OTHER 501 ORGANIZATI GENERAL FUND 500
Total .................................right arrow 3a 64,250
bApproved for future payment
Total ................................. right arrow 3b 0
Form 990-PF (2024)
Form 990-PF (2024)
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Part XV-A
Analysis of Income-Producing Activities
Enter gross amounts unless otherwise indicated. Unrelated business income Excluded by section 512, 513, or 514 (e)
Related or exempt
function income
(See instructions.)
1Program service revenue: (a)
Business code 		(b)
Amount 		(c)
Exclusion code 		(d)
Amount
a
b
c
d
e
f
gFees and contracts from government agencies          
2 Membership dues and assessments ....          
3 Interest on savings and temporary cash
investments ........... 		         
4 Dividends and interest from securities ....     14 59,998  
5 Net rental income or (loss) from real estate:
aDebt-financed property......          
bNot debt-financed property.....          
6 Net rental income or (loss) from personal property          
7 Other investment income .....          
8 Gain or (loss) from sales of assets other than
inventory ............ 		    18 481  
9 Net income or (loss) from special events:          
10 Gross profit or (loss) from sales of inventory          
11 Other revenue:
a
b
c
d
e
12 Subtotal. Add columns (b), (d), and (e) .. 0 60,479 0
13Total. Add line 12, columns (b), (d), and (e)..................
13
60,479
(See worksheet in line 13 instructions to verify calculations.)
Part XV-B
Relationship of Activities to the Accomplishment of Exempt Purposes
Line No.
DownArrow 		Explain below how each activity for which income is reported in column (e) of Part XV-A contributed importantly to
the accomplishment of the foundation’s exempt purposes (other than by providing funds for such purposes). (See
instructions.)
Form 990-PF (2024)
Form 990-PF (2024)
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Part XVI
Information Regarding Transfers To and Transactions and Relationships With Noncharitable Exempt Organizations
1
Did the organization directly or indirectly engage in any of the following with any other organization described in section 501(c) (other than section 501(c)(3) organizations) or in section 527, relating to political organizations?
Yes
No
a
Transfers from the reporting foundation to a noncharitable exempt organization of:
(1) Cash...................................
1a(1)
 
No
(2) Other assets.................................
1a(2)
 
No
b
Other transactions:
(1) Sales of assets to a noncharitable exempt organization....................
1b(1)
 
No
(2) Purchases of assets from a noncharitable exempt organization..................
1b(2)
 
No
(3) Rental of facilities, equipment, or other assets.......................
1b(3)
 
No
(4) Reimbursement arrangements...........................
1b(4)
 
No
(5) Loans or loan guarantees.............................
1b(5)
 
No
(6) Performance of services or membership or fundraising solicitations................
1b(6)
 
No
c
Sharing of facilities, equipment, mailing lists, other assets, or paid employees..............
1c
 
No
d
If the answer to any of the above is "Yes," complete the following schedule. Column (b) should always show the fair market value
of the goods, other assets, or services given by the reporting foundation. If the foundation received less than fair market value
in any transaction or sharing arrangement, show in column (d) the value of the goods, other assets, or services received.
(a) Line No. (b) Amount involved (c) Name of noncharitable exempt organization (d) Description of transfers, transactions, and sharing arrangements
2a
Is the foundation directly or indirectly affiliated with, or related to, one or more tax-exempt organizations
described in section 501(c) (other than section 501(c)(3)) or in section 527? ...........
b
If "Yes," complete the following schedule.

(a) Name of organization (b) Type of organization (c) Description of relationship
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Schedule B
(Form 990)
(Rev. January 2025)
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service
Schedule of Contributors

right arrow Attach to Form 990, 990-EZ, or 990-PF.
right arrow Go to www.irs.gov/Form990 for the latest information.
OMB No. 1545-0047
Name of the organization
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
 
Employer identification number

26-3033542
Organization type (check one):
Filers of:
Section:
Form 990 or 990-EZ
501(c)( ) (enter number) organization

4947(a)(1) nonexempt charitable trust not treated as a private foundation

527 political organization


Form 990-PF
501(c)(3) exempt private foundation

4947(a)(1) nonexempt charitable trust treated as a private foundation

501(c)(3) taxable private foundation
Check if your organization is covered by the General Rule or a Special Rule.  
Note:  Only a section 501(c)(7), (8), or (10) organization can check boxes for both the General Rule and a Special Rule. See instructions.
General Rule
For an organization filing Form 990, 990-EZ, or 990-PF that received, during the year, contributions totaling $5,000 or more (in money or other property) from any one contributor. Complete Parts I and II. See instructions for determining a contributor's total contributions.
Special Rules
For an organization described in section 501(c)(3) filing Form 990 or 990-EZ that met the 331/3% support test of the regulations
under sections 509(a)(1) and 170(b)(1)(A)(vi), that checked Schedule A (Form 990 or 990-EZ), Part II, line 13, 16a, or 16b, and that received from any one contributor, during the year, total contributions of the greater of (1) $5,000 or (2) 2% of the amount on (i) Form 990, Part VIII, line 1h, or (ii) Form 990-EZ, line 1. Complete Parts I and II.
For an organization described in section 501(c)(7), (8), or (10) filing Form 990 or 990-EZ that received from any one contributor,
during the year, total contributions of more than $1,000 exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, literary, or educational purposes, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals. Complete Parts I, II, and III.
For an organization described in section 501(c)(7), (8), or (10) filing Form 990 or 990-EZ that received from any one contributor,
during the year, contributions exclusively for religious, charitable, etc., purposes, but no such contributions totaled more than $1,000. If this box is checked, enter here the total contributions that were received during the year for an exclusively religious, charitable, etc., purpose. Don't complete any of the parts unless the General Rule applies to this organization because it received nonexclusively religious, charitable, etc., contributions totaling $5,000 or more during the year ......... Right Arrow $  
Caution: An organization that isn't covered by the General Rule and/or the Special Rules doesn't file Schedule B (Form 990,
990-EZ, or 990-PF), but it must answer “No” on Part IV, line 2, of its Form 990; or check the box on line H of its Form 990-EZ
or on its Form 990PF, Part I, line 2, to certify that it doesn't meet the filing requirements of Schedule B (Form 990,
990-EZ, or 990-PF).
For Paperwork Reduction Act Notice, see the Instructions
for Form 990, 990-EZ, or 990-PF.
Cat. No. 30613XSchedule B (Form 990) (Rev. 1-2025)
Schedule B (Form 990) (Rev. 1-2025) Page 2
Name of organization
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
  		Employer identification number
26-3033542
Part I
Contributors (see instructions). Use duplicate copies of Part I if additional space is needed.
(a)
No.		 (b)
Name, address, and ZIP + 4		 (c)
Total contributions		 (d)
Type of contribution
1
SIDNEY N HERMAN
 
3800 N LAKE SHORE DRIVE
 
CHICAGO, IL60610

$ 5,319


(Complete Part II for noncash contributions.)
(a)
No.		 (b)
Name, address, and ZIP + 4		 (c)
Total contributions		 (d)
Type of contribution
 
 
 
 

$  


(Complete Part II for noncash contributions.)
(a)
No.		 (b)
Name, address, and ZIP + 4		 (c)
Total contributions		 (d)
Type of contribution
 
 
 
 

$  


(Complete Part II for noncash contributions.)
(a)
No.		 (b)
Name, address, and ZIP + 4		 (c)
Total contributions		 (d)
Type of contribution
 
 
 
 

$  


(Complete Part II for noncash contributions.)
(a)
No.		 (b)
Name, address, and ZIP + 4		 (c)
Total contributions		 (d)
Type of contribution
 
 
 
 

$  


(Complete Part II for noncash contributions.)
(a)
No.		 (b)
Name, address, and ZIP + 4		 (c)
Total contributions		 (d)
Type of contribution
 
 
 
 

$  


(Complete Part II for noncash contributions.)
Schedule B (Form 990) (Rev. 1-2025)
Schedule B (Form 990) (Rev. 1-2025)
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Name of organization
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
  		Employer identification number

26-3033542
Part II
Noncash Property (see instructions). Use duplicate copies of Part II if additional space is needed.
(a)
No. from Part I 		(b)
Description of noncash property given 		(c)
FMV (or estimate)
(See instructions) 		(d)
Date received
 
$    
(a)
No. from Part I 		(b)
Description of noncash property given 		(c)
FMV (or estimate)
(See instructions) 		(d)
Date received
 
$    
(a)
No. from Part I 		(b)
Description of noncash property given 		(c)
FMV (or estimate)
(See instructions) 		(d)
Date received
 
$    
(a)
No. from Part I 		(b)
Description of noncash property given 		(c)
FMV (or estimate)
(See instructions) 		(d)
Date received
 
$    
(a)
No. from Part I 		(b)
Description of noncash property given 		(c)
FMV (or estimate)
(See instructions) 		(d)
Date received
 
$    
(a)
No. from Part I 		(b)
Description of noncash property given 		(c)
FMV (or estimate)
(See instructions) 		(d)
Date received
 
$    
Schedule B (Form 990) (Rev. 1-2025)
Schedule B (Form 990) (Rev. 1-2025)
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Name of organization
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
  		Employer identification number

26-3033542
Part III
Exclusively religious, charitable, etc., contributions to organizations described in section 501(c) (7), (8), or (10) that total more than $1,000 for the year from any one contributor. Complete columns (a) through (e) and the following line entry. For organizations completing Part III, enter the total of exclusively religious, charitable, etc., contributions of $1,000 or less for the year. (Enter this information once. See instructions.) $  
Use duplicate copies of Part III if additional space is needed.
(a)
No. from Part I		 (b) Purpose of gift (c) Use of gift (d) Description of how gift is held
 
(e) Transfer of gift
Transferee's name, address, and ZIP 4 Relationship of transferor to transferee
 
 
     
 
(a)
No. from Part I		 (b) Purpose of gift (c) Use of gift (d) Description of how gift is held
 
(e) Transfer of gift
Transferee's name, address, and ZIP 4 Relationship of transferor to transferee
 
 
     
 
(a)
No. from Part I		 (b) Purpose of gift (c) Use of gift (d) Description of how gift is held
 
(e) Transfer of gift
Transferee's name, address, and ZIP 4 Relationship of transferor to transferee
 
 
     
 
(a)
No. from Part I		 (b) Purpose of gift (c) Use of gift (d) Description of how gift is held
 
(e) Transfer of gift
Transferee's name, address, and ZIP 4 Relationship of transferor to transferee
 
 
     
 
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TY 2024 AccountingFeesSchedule
Name:
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
EIN:
26-3033542
Category Amount Net Investment Income Adjusted Net Income Disbursements for Charitable Purposes
ACCOUNTING FEES 5,293 0   5,293

TY 2024 InvestmentsCorpStockSchedule
Name:
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
EIN:
26-3033542
Name of Stock End of Year Book Value End of Year Fair Market Value
ARCHROCK INC 16,319 49,780
ARES COML REAL ESTAT REIT 7,731 3,534
ARROWMARK FINL CORP 10,092 11,540
BARINGS BDC INC 8,361 8,374
BLACKSTONE SECD LENDING 8,136 11,309
BLUE OWL CAPITAL CORP 8,197 9,828
BRAEMAR HOTEL 8.25% PFDPFD SER D 10,047 7,400
BRAEMAR HOTELS & RESORTS 7,709 4,500
BRT APARTMENTS CORP 6,015 5,409
CAPITAL SOUTHWEST CORP 8,595 9,819
CARETRUST REIT INC REIT 7,352 10,144
EAGLE POINT C 6.75% PFDPFD SER D 9,838 8,789
EAGLE POINT CREDIT CF 8,189 6,216
EAGLE POINT INCOME COMPA 7,770 7,770
FLAHERTY & CRMRN PRF INC 9,930 8,930
FS KKR CAPITAL CORP 8,280 8,688
GLADSTONE LAND CORPO REIT 7,278 3,255
GLOBAL MED REI 7.5% PFDPFD SER A 10,267 10,176
GLOBAL MEDICAL R E I T I 7,675 5,211
GLOBAL SELF STORAGE REIT 7,455 6,929
HARROW HEALTH 8.625%PFD 10,168 10,743
INDEPENDENCE REALTY REIT 7,327 6,944
ISHARES FLOATING RATE BOND ETF 425,616 427,603
ISHARES SILVER TRUST ETF 24,258 36,862
MANHATTAN BRIDGE CAP 7,466 7,560
NEWTEKONE INC 8,513 5,427
OAKTREE SPECIALTY LENDIN 8,387 6,356
OXFORD LANE CAPITAL ORD 8,262 6,845
PLYMOUTH INDUSTRIAL R E REIT 7,438 7,565
POSTAL REALTY TR 7,785 6,525
POTLATCH CORP REIT 6,893 5,888
READY CAPITAL 6.5% PFDPFD SER E 10,080 9,587
RUNWAY GROWTH FIN CORP 9,530 8,768
SACHEM CAP CORP 7,215 2,025
SLR INVESTMENT CORP 8,343 9,292
SOTHERLY HOTELS 8% PFDPFD SER B 9,288 6,800
SOTHERLY HOTELS INC. REIT 7,070 3,260
SPROTT PHYSICAL GOLD & S 23,805 35,640
SURO CAP CORP 6%PFD 9,900 9,800
TORTOISE PIPELINE & ENER 15,775 25,362
UMH PROPERTIES INC. REIT 7,301 7,080
VICI PROPERTIES INC 7,365 6,572
WHITEHORSE FIN INC 8,328 5,808
ALICO INC 7,137 6,483

TY 2024 TaxesSchedule
Name:
SKIP & MEG HERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION
EIN:
26-3033542
Category Amount Net Investment Income Adjusted Net Income Disbursements for Charitable Purposes
US EXCISE TAXES 1,390 0   0
STATE FILING FEES 26 0   26